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I am an Ultra-Conservative, Alpha-Male, True Authentic Leader, Type "C" Personality, who is very active in my community; whether it is donating time, clothes or money for Project Concern or going to Common Council meetings and voicing my opinions. As a blogger, I intend to provide a different viewpoint "The way I see it!" on various world, national and local issues with a few helpful tips & tidbits sprinkled in.

Wal-Mart What IF

By Randy Hollenbeck
Monday, Mar 17 2008, 06:23 PM

After thinking about my comment that I don’t think Mr. Smith and Mayor McCue would be happy if Wal-Mart still built in Cudahy, just not on the Ice Port,  I have received a few emails that the people stated a Wal-Mart would be fine for Cudahy, just not on the Ice Port land.  After seeing what Austin Texas Wal-Mart will look like, I think that would be perfect if the KRM would come true (If it does, I hope they get private funding for it, not taxes).

 

When time offers you an opportunity, you don’t ignore it!

 

Don’t let life’s opportunities pass us by!

 

Cudahy needs to turn the page on the Iceport!

 

Maybe, others and me are just the odd ducks out there that believe that this would be good for the community. 

 

Naw…

 

I know it would be good.  Again, we will not convince those that are just against Wal-Mart, it is getting to those who are on the fence.

 

Those against like to say stuff like, bad business practice (as if selling items at very high prices gouging people is okay, just don’t sell items at a low price) or it is the first shiny thing to be proposed and why be in a rush to put something there (as if the TIF gets frozen or empty land brings in money, or looks good – blight then doesn’t matter), don’t forget the crime (looked into that, not that big of a deal), then it is doesn’t represent the city (Cudahy is working class, Wal-Mart is for the working class). 

 

The truth is that it does not represent what they want Cudahy to become, not what Cudahy is or has been.  People wakeup, they want to raise the image and it starts by saying no to the Wal-Mart, then get those people who don’t represent the future out.  Send a message, tell them we want this Wal-Mart because we like who we are.  We don’t need to be Whitefish Bay, but Cudahy.  We can improve our image while keeping our core and soul.

 

It was nice to see some national ink on this issue.  It didn’t paint the Mayor in a good light and he represents the city and us.  So, I guess it didn’t make us look good.  Kind of made us look like bigots and snobs.  

 

I am thinking aloud here - Also, I wonder about a possible agreement (at the CDA level), between Cobalt Partners and the CDA & City on the Penn and Layton site.  I am wondering what is up on that site, and if, by strange chance, Wal-Mart could be working behind the scenes with Cobalt, if the Continental (Ice Port) site falls through?

 

I wonder if those that clamor, no strike that, firmly in the “Against” camp how they would feel about that.

 

While I know there is no hurry on Milwaukee's part to move the land, I wonder if this is true. 

 

I know, everyone knows, that most of this is an old dumpsite.  The question has always been how much and who pays for the clean up, and can you get enough development on the site, to make it worthwhile? 

 

The numbers on the environmental were anywhere between $6 million to $10 million to clean up, and thus you would need anywhere between $40 to $50 million on the site, to make it worthwhile (from one of the CDA meetings). 

 

In the beginning, there was a brownfield

Then cement and steel started to rise and grow

Now they rust and are falling down

 

Water was to flow

And ice was to grow

But that all evaporated

 

Then the giant was called to come

He was invited and asked to help us grow

A fight is brewing with the Mayor and his followers

 

The leaders fear the giant

They don’t want to see the city grow

Much happier they would be to change or pretend we are someone else

 

We are working class, not upper class

We will continue moving forward and to grow

All we need is support and for them to know who we are

 

For we are Cudahy

 

- Randy Hollenbeck

Comments

Joe Henika   

Unfortunately, the Iceport mess will not be resolved anytime soon. Just as it took years to get all the way into this mess, it will take considerable time, effort and money for the city to work its way all the way out. The city has signed a stipulation creating a legal obligation for it to negotiate in good faith with the Developer Continental. Continental has signed sometype of purchase aggreement with the old Sportsite owners, aggreeing to pay them (and/or their debtors) some unknown number of millioms for the purchase of the Iceport property. The old city aggrements with Sportsite limited the maximum size of any indiviual retail site to under 50,000 sq ft. The proposed Wal-Mart for the Iceport site is more than 3 times this size. (The 2/3rd sized Wal-Mart just so happens to be proposed as "an uninque, only one of its kind facility" (much like the iceport was going to be uninque, only one of its kind facility). This is the reason that the developer must get the zoning approval. The Continental proposal to build the Wave building and a Wal-Mart would only cost the city another $10 Million or so, over and above the $11 million or so the city already has invested in that site. Thus the city would get a $7 million dollar Wave building (that Wisconsin Statutes qualify for tax free status) for the bargain price of something over $20,0000,000. (Both Franklin and Oak Creek presently have socer facailities in their cities and neither has proven to be a destination or a way to change their City's image, but the smaller proposed Wave building is guaranted to somehow change the image of Cudahy.)

The problem is that because of our aggreement with Continental, the City of Cudahy cannot talk to Wal-Mart directly or even indirectly. Futhermore, the old sportsite law suit only is GOING TO BE dropped per the stipulation agreement if the city negotiates in good faith. The lawyered question is, does the stipulation of "good faith negotiations" mean that the City of Cudahy must pay indirectly $3-$7 million extra dollars again just to get something developed on the sportsites site? Or does it mean that Continental must find a way to create enough value for the city or its client purchasers that will cover the untold millions of dollars demanded by the old sportsites owners and debtors for their mistakes on the property? I and most of the citizens of Cudahy do not see any reason what so ever why the city needs to pay extra millions just to get back to the point where we sold the land to the sportsite developers for $1. I have personally talked to business owners who are interested in developing the sportsite property. They just do not know how they can afford to pay the additional $5-7 million or more to Continental to buy the land and still have a profitable developement. The problem is that eventually the courts will be the only one to decide which side is right if Continental does not end up building on the Iceport site.

ALSO THE PROBLEM IS THE CITY CANNOT TALK TO COLBOLT ABOUT WAL-MART ON PENNSYLVANIA, while it is still negotiating in good faith with Continental and it's proposed Wal-Mart on the Iceport site, at the same time.  

Wal-Mart has aggreed in the past to pay millions just for a building site in Wisconsin, and they have looked at a site in Oak Creek right on the borders of Cudahy and South Milwaukee. They have talked in the past about building a full supercenter (with much higher taxes) with Colbolt on the Pennsylvania site. The plan was for the City of Milwaukee to get over a million dollars for their part of the dump site, and the City of Cudahy TIF would advance around $10 million in order to clean up the whole site. Wal-Mart would have paid this back with their annual taxes. Here, the city would have taken a property that has not paid any property taxes for over 70 years, and a dump besides, and we would gotten not only the tax paying Wal-Mart but all the resulting development nearby on the vacant and under-developed Cudahy land on Pennsylvania. We would also have the whole Iceport site for developement

WAl-Mart is the key to both sites at this time, because they do have a major PR problem. They are pretty much the only gig enough and stong enough party who cannot get a city to pay them to come to their city, and therefore can be induced to pay either some of the debts of a failed developer or maybe someday the clean up of a city dump.  The question is will they decide to build on the very edge of Cudahy, bringing all the problems people see with a WAL-Mart, but absolutely none of the benifits, because the City of Cudahy is now forced to negotiate in good faith? Did the City of Cudahy back inself into holding up development of both parcels while new lawsuits are filed? Did the City of Cudahy obligate itself to give the failed Sportsite developer the $6 million dollars he sued for, when it signed the stipulation stopping our forseclosuer of the Iceport land? Only time will tell

March 18, 2008 7:45 PM

Randy Hollenbeck   

Joe Henika - Thank you for answering so many questions.  I would rather have the Wal-Mart on Pennsylvania and Layton then the IcePort, but right now, that is not the offer on the table.  Thank you for telling people about Wal-Mart looking at Oak Creek.  I know from Lisa Nelson they are looking all around the cities in the South Shore.

March 18, 2008 9:25 PM

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About Randy Hollenbeck

I have lived in Cudahy for 13 years and on the south side of Milwaukee for 36 years. I was selected by CNI NOW of the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel as one of three influential people in Cudahy for 2007. In my neighborhood, many of the older people ask me to contact our elected officials to be the voice of the people. I am married and have a 2-1/2 year old daughter. I spent 11 years as a retail manager and currently I am a computer engineer with co-ownership of a computer consulting company.

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